| Urban and 
              Rural Disparities 
              (12/06/00)   
              1. Do you 
                think that such a gap is widening in the area of your agency's 
                jurisdiction? Has your agency (or any other agency with which 
                you are familiar) conducted research concerning a comparison between 
                the urban and rural residents' quality of life in Washington State?[ response 
                ]
 2. We would 
                be grateful to receive any real-world examples to address the 
                following premises (if possible, please give us any examples from 
                the area of your agency's jurisdiction):  a. Is it true 
                that agricultural land prices are declining, and promoting farmland 
                conversion? If so, do local governments, or residents, agree with 
                the GMA farmland preservation goal?  b. At the 
                urban fringe, to what degree do farmers want to sell their land 
                to the developers? If so, what is the planners' role in this situation? c. According 
                to one hypothesis, prices are becoming cheaper in rural areas, 
                and therefore the rich urban dwellers are buying up large lots 
                (5 or 10+ acres) to build ranchettes or hobby farms? Do you know 
                whether this phenomenon exists in your area, and if so, to what 
                extent? Also, and if so, are there conflicts between established 
                residents and newcomers?[ response ]
 3. Do you have Purchased Development Rights and/or Transferable 
                Development Rights programs in your area? If so, are they working 
                effectively to preserve agricultural land?
 [ 
                response ]
 
 4. Some argue 
                that the GMA is primarily responsible for these growing disparities 
                between urban and rural areas, and that this problem will threaten 
                the long-term survival of the Act. What is your opinion of this 
                view?[ response ]
 
 1. 
            Do you think that such a gap is widening in the area of your agency's 
            jurisdiction? Has your agency (or any other agency with which you 
            are familiar) conducted research concerning a comparison between the 
            urban and rural residents' quality of life in Washington State?
 
 B. Collins 
              City of Port Angeles
 I don't perceive a widening gap, which has existed throughout the 
              20th century and no.
 K. Kuhn Pend Oreille County
 If you are asking--is the gap widening within Pend Oreille County--then 
              my answer would be framed by some general economic information, 
              some of which is available from the Washington Data Book. This county 
              has historically had very high unemployment, in part due to the 
              seasonal nature of the logging industry. Recent unemployment figures 
              have improved. Per wageearner earnings are high here, but per capita 
              is low. There may be a multi-generational situation in some areas 
              here that continues to nurture welfare dependency. I do not know 
              if such a gap is widening within the county. On a statewide basis, 
              it was noted recently that the largest economic gap between any 
              two counties in a given state, however that was measured, was between 
              King and Pend Oreille.
 In terms of 
              quality of life, there are rural residents here who lack water and/or 
              sewer systems, live in very substandard housing, and even lack dependable 
              transportation to get to a job if they have one. This is not the 
              norm, however. How are you measuring quality of life? Our agency 
              has done no comparison research on this subject.  
 2. We would be 
            grateful to receive any real-world examples to address the following 
            premises (if possible, please give us any examples from the area of 
            your agency's jurisdiction):
 a. Is it true 
              that agricultural land prices are declining, and promoting farmland 
              conversion? If so, do local governments, or residents, agree with 
              the GMA farmland preservation goal? b. At the urban 
              fringe, to what degree do farmers want to sell their land to the 
              developers? If so, what is the planners' role in this situation?c. According to 
            one hypothesis, prices are becoming cheaper in rural areas, and therefore 
            the rich urban dwellers are buying up large lots (5 or 10+ acres) 
            to build ranchettes or hobby farms? Do you know whether this phenomenon 
            exists in your area, and if so, to what extent? Also, and if so, are 
            there conflicts between established residents and newcomers? 
 S. Croft 
              Spokane County
 I'll speak from my former experience on the Ferry County Planning 
              Commission. For those who don't know, Ferry County is about as rural 
              as you could get, with actually no truly urban segment to speak 
              of. It is the most sparsely populated county in the state. The only 
              incorporated town has about 1,000 people in it. There is no stop 
              light in the entire county. The total county population is about 
              7,000. About 90% of it is either state forest or Colville Indian 
              Reservation. The traditional industries are ranching, logging, and 
              gold mining. It is a very poor county, but extremely beautiful. 
              But as they say, "you can't eat scenery."
 Two main things 
              come to mind: * Farming is 
              dying out as a way of being able to earn a viable living. Especially 
              ranching. However, for many it is their "custom, culture and 
              heritage" (Wise Use lingo), and therefore part and parcel of 
              their identity. This means that they want two things: They want 
              some structure (but not necessarily "planning" or "regulations", 
              which they resent) that will help them stay in business farming 
              as long as possible. Then, when they get ready to retire, they don't 
              want any structure at all, so they are free to subdivide their property 
              and sell it off to finance their retirement. (The only hitch to 
              this approach in Ferry County is that the economy is so slow, people 
              are not exactly moving there in droves, so property doesn't sell.) 
              * Oldtimers always resent newcomers. Mostly it's because of the 
              age old dance that occurs: the newcomers move there because they 
              like the way it looks and feels. But they bring with them some of 
              the things they were trying to escape, thus making it more like 
              where they came from, and also putting pressure on the oldtimers 
              to give up their old ways.
 You will hear 
              this same message from every single rural area you survey.  B. Collins 
              City of Port Angeles
 a) Yes; Yes but not enough to have voted for a bond issue to purchase 
              development rights for farmland preservation (Clallam County bond 
              vote in mid 1990's)
 b) Some do and some don't; To include agricultural land preservation 
              policies in GMA compliant local comprehensive plans and develop 
              programs that can implement such policies. To support private land 
              trusts as complementary to regulatory and public land purchase approaches.
 c) Yes; Significant portion of new population; Yes but not a big 
              deal for most people at this time.
 K. Kuhn Pend Oreille County
 a) Anecdotal evidence points to a slow appreciation of agricultural 
              land values here. Some ag land in the south of the county, adjacent 
              to and near north Spokane County, is being converted into 5- and 
              10-acre residential parcels as Spokane County residents seek more 
              space within commuting distance of the Spokane metro area. (Approximately 
              40% of county residents who are wageearners work out of the county.) 
              There is quite a number of older farmers who definitely agree with 
              the GMA farmland preservation goal, but they are retiring and leaving 
              their operations to the next generation that is sometimes not so 
              attached to the farm life. Local residents seem split on the importance 
              of preserving ag land--it's not on their list of concerns.
 b) The only large area of ag land on the "urban" fringe 
              is near Cusick, about 20 miles northwest of Newport. At this time 
              Cusick is not growing nor does there appear to be pressure to convert 
              the ag land in the Cusick Flats. If there were such pressure to 
              sell, the planner would be up against prevailing sentiment for people 
              to profit from the sale of their private property in just about 
              any way they see fit.
 c) Some of this question is answered above, but some folks with 
              money have acquired larger than 10-acre parcels, usually near the 
              Pend Oreille River, and have constructed large homes. I do not believe 
              land prices are becoming cheaper here, except perhaps relative to 
              rate of appreciation of land in the urban areas. Regarding conflicts 
              between established residents and newcomers--that is a big deal 
              here. Unless you were born here you will never be completely accepted. 
              Overt conflicts are not so evident. Most differences show up in 
              conversations about newcomers wanting to change that way things 
              are done here, in matters ranging from street maintenance in the 
              towns to conduct in public meetings to enforcing county ordinances.
 
 3. 
            Do you have Purchased Development Rights and/or Transferable Development 
            Rights programs in your area? If so, are they working effectively 
            to preserve agricultural land?
 
 B. Collins 
              City of Port Angeles
 Yes but not a big deal for most people at this time; No, since there 
              is little problem getting the density without purchasing development 
              rights at this time.
 K. Kuhn Pend Oreille County
 We do not have these tools. Present senior staff consider these 
              tools to be too demanding of limited staff time to implement. Then 
              there is the problem of how to finance such programs.
 
 4. 
            Some argue that the GMA is primarily responsible for these growing 
            disparities between urban and rural areas, and that this problem will 
            threaten the long-term survival of the Act. What is your opinion of 
            this view?
 
 B. Collins 
              City of Port Angeles
 I believe just the opposite that GMA will help even the playing 
              field for development in urban and rural areas, certainly for development 
              requirements and likely for economic equity in the long run. If 
              you review my answer to question #1, I think it is a myth to say 
              that the attractiveness of urban areas is just now depressing rural 
              development. This disparity existed long before GMA.
 K. Kuhn Pend Oreille County
 I think that opponents of the comprehensive planning legislation 
              in the state, unfortunately named the GMA, will continue leave no 
              stone unturned in their attempt to discredit and eventually overturn 
              the GMA. Disparities between rural and urban Washington State have 
              roots that certainly go back well before the passage of the GMA. 
              Just how the GMA would be responsible for the apparently growing 
              disparities is a problematic issue. Have you the main tenets of 
              this argument? Is it possible to have an honest and open public 
              discussion on the issue?
 Jurisdictions 
              that adopt well thought out comprehensive plans that reflect their 
              situations have a guide that ought to begin to remove the good-old-boy 
              nature of politics, and replace it with more objective decision-making 
              mechanisms which can help make that comp plan an outline for better 
              management of that jurisdiction's resources. Many small and rural 
              jurisdictions are simply not accustomed to doing things that way, 
              yet. 
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